Prospects of Kiva's Activities in Asia

Submitted by Jenara Nerenberg on January 8, 2009 - 09:47.
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NextBillion left off in 2008 with Rob's post about Kiva and that's where I'll pick up in the new year.  I recently sat down with Matt Flannery, Founder of Kiva, to chat about BOP Source and Kiva's work in Asia. I wanted to share a brief update on the latter and point you to Matt's blog, which provides great insight on the triumphs and challenges of running a global organization like Kiva.

Part of Kiva's success is due to the outstanding Microfinance Institutions (MFIs) they partner with, an aspect of Kiva that also requires a lot of due diligence and a lot of staff. Taking a look around their offices in the Mission district of San Francisco, I said to Matt, "Wow, you have a large staff!" He said, "That's because of all the due diligence we do."

Matt has openly blogged about early tribulations with MFI partners in Africa that led to tighter due diligence. Kiva has approximately 15 people on staff solely dedicated to due diligence and monitoring. Additionally, Kiva is hiring local staff in Southeast Asia, Africa, and South America to augment the work of San Francisco-based staff. In May of 2007, Kiva received a $345,000 grant to expand its due diligence operations.  Ernst & Young has also donated up to $1 million in audits.

That said, Kiva will be expanding its presence in Asia in the near future and has already identified promising partners and high-impact regions to work in. For the Asia region, Kiva recently signed on 4 partners in the Philippines, a partner in West Timor, and a partner in Vietnam, with a possible partner in Papua New Guinea coming soon. Additional numbers are exciting; 1% of the population of Samoa is funded by Kiva and rural and urban repayment rates in the Asia region are close to 100%.  

Microfinance has taken off with wild success in Cambodia in particular, and Kiva has played no small part in that success. Darren Miao, Microfinance Partnerships Manager at Kiva, told me that 13% of all Kiva loans go to Cambodia, which make up $7-10 million. When asked about the success of Kiva in Cambodia, Matt said in Cambodia there is "A dense population who have, until recently, not been tapped by the banking industry."  For all you entrepreneurs out there, this could be a very helpful clue about how to identify the right place for your next microfinance venture.

As a side note, Matt told me that next up, Kiva is headed to the U.S.! Kiva plans to begin facilitating lending to micro-entrepreneurs in the U.S. in March 2009. While Zopa and Prosper are two already-established online lending organizations in the U.S., Matt said they are not direct competitors. Kiva will continue to cater to the "poorest of the poor," as Matt put it, and they will continue to work with field partners as their current lending model dictates. According to Matt, Kiva's target borrowers "could not qualify for the direct p2p approach of Prosper and Zopa."

Kiva is already present elsewhere in Asia, including Nepal, Mongolia, and Pakistan, but Kiva has yet to work in China and India due to government regulatory barriers, a roadblock that Matt and Darren are eagerly trying to push through. While Kiva is also already present in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Vietnam, these are places that show huge interest and potential and will see aggressive focus on Kiva's part in the upcoming year.

Finally, due to the current global economic crisis, there has been a 25% decline in new lending through Kiva, a drop that will hopefully be stymied by Kiva's expansion in Asia and the U.S. and, perhaps, by this post. You decide.


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Submitted by Esther on January 9, 2009 - 11:22.
Its sad- your comment 'its not been easy in Africa for KIVA' but of course as an African i know its real. Microfinance business is just picking up originally people thought it was free money especially when populits politicians used to publically encourage their voters to go and get loans. But am glad KIVA stayed on in Africa because i have seen loans make big differences in people's lives and of course with the high dependability its impossible to accumulate capital so for any development loans are the answer.
Submitted by Jenara Nerenberg on January 9, 2009 - 12:33.
Yes, Matt wrote in his blog that it was initially very challenging working in Africa. I think there are challenges wherever hard work is needed (which happens to be most of the world!) But I agree that it is important to persevere in the face of such challenges, as Kiva has, because the improvement in people's lives is a very worthy reward. Thanks for your comment, Esther.

Submitted by Erica Schlaikjer on January 9, 2009 - 12:39.
If you're interested in microfinance in China, specifically, you might want to check out Wokai.org. I interviewed one of the founders for a podcast on my blog, ResponsibleChina.com:http://responsiblechina.com/2008/10/07/the-responsiblechina-show-courtney-mccolgan-and-casey-wilson-wokaiorg/
Submitted by Jenara Nerenberg on January 10, 2009 - 11:19.
Erica, great to read your blog and learn about Wokai.org. Do you know how Wokai has overcome some of the regulatory barriers that Matt Flannery of Kiva alluded to?
Submitted by Daniel Shi on January 10, 2009 - 12:03.
Hi Jenara, My name is Daniel Shi and I am a volunteer with Wokai.org in Beijing. The main difference, as I understand it, is that in China, you can not withdraw your contributions out of the country. So, unlike with Kiva, contributors to Wokai can not withdraw their investments from the system. What Wokai does allow you to do, is to redirect the loans, once they have been paid, on to another borrower in the Wokai system. I hope this answered your question. I'd be happy to link you to one of the Wokai folks if you'd like to learn more. You can also check out their blog at http://wokai.typepad.com
Submitted by Ron on January 10, 2009 - 21:12.
Jenara, The main regulatory hurdle Kiva faces in China is the ability to transfer money out of the Chinese system in order to pay back lenders when the loans are repaid. Loans through Wokai are funded through donations, so the money never returns to the originator. When Wokai loans are repaid, the money is recycled back into the system to another Chinese borrower. The Chinese government is willing to have capital pour into their markets, but quite stingy to release it back in to the open system. It is a pity; there are multitudes of Kiva lenders all over the world who are willing and able to lend to the poor in China.
Submitted by Jenara Nerenberg on January 11, 2009 - 02:09.
Daniel, thanks for the explanation. I'd love to get in touch with them. I think important questions are raised by the two different models, mainly the psychology of taking a loan and knowing you are responsible for paying it back to a person, versus knowing that the money will be passed onto another micro-entrepreneur...any thoughts on how this affects the borrower and/or the lender's mindset?
Submitted by Jenara Nerenberg on January 11, 2009 - 02:15.
Very interesting, Ron. Thanks for sharing that information. Are you currently working with Kiva? Any idea if the same constraints exist in other countries and whether/how they are overcome by other microfinance ventures?
Submitted by Ron on January 12, 2009 - 00:07.
Jenara, I am Kiva lender, but do not have any formal ties with the organization. I've been following the discussion boards of other Kiva lenders and also participated in a Kiva online community chat with Matt Flannery. From my understanding, Kiva has not been able to enter the the market in India because of the same monetary restrictions encountered with China. The last update that the Kiva community received was that communication was ongoing with Indian government officials to get those restrictions lifted. You could probably get more information directly from Matt Flannery or Premal Shah. Fiona Ramsey, Kiva's Public Relations coordinator, would also be a good source. Other microfinance institutions, such as Opportunity International, have been able to enter both China and India. Like Wokai, their loans are funded by donations. Once those loans are repaid, the funds are loaned to another borrower from the same country.
Submitted by Ron on January 12, 2009 - 00:37.
Jenara, Speaking only for myself as a Kiva lender, it is a matter of both control and personal connection. I get to choose the entrepreneurs and can receive updates from the field on how their businesses are doing. Through other lending platforms, you may get to choose the initial borrower, but once the funds are recycled back into the system the recipients are nameless/faceless. If I do get to the point when I no longer wish to personally manage my Kiva loan portfolio, I plan to donate those funds to an organization that automatically "recycles" microloans. From my understanding of how microloans are serviced, the borrowers have no knowledge of whether their loans came from donations, a P2P lender, or capital raised by for-profit financial institutions. All the funds must be channeled through a local microfinance institution (MFI) that handles disbursing the loan and collecting payments. Unless the MFI discloses the funding source to the loan recipient, the borrower conducts business as normal.

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